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	<title>Comments on: Coaching Recruiters. Doing your job while teaching them their job!</title>
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	<description>By Greg Savage</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Jones - Accountancy Appointments Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Jones - Accountancy Appointments Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tips Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tips Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Andrese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Andrese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just gen Y. No one has the time to learn, listen or even read. They want success the day before yesterday infused the second they sit in the chair. Learners have to an active participant in their training, which means hands on as quickly as possible. 

This may offer you some structure/guidance Ben.

1. explain / demonstrate:  5 - 10 minutes, each aspect of how to do the job using a variety of blended learning methodologies
2. practice / coach: observe &amp; give immediate feedback, repeat until competency achieved
3. job aids:  short checklists and talking points that the learner can refer to 
4. evaluate: daily/weekly/monthly/quarterly. observe learner to align activity with results and fill knowledge/skill gaps -- don&#039;t wait until the behavior is ingrained to modify. 

Lastly, if processes, tools or an understanding of competencies are lacking, it will be difficult to achieve sustainable, let alone repeatable success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just gen Y. No one has the time to learn, listen or even read. They want success the day before yesterday infused the second they sit in the chair. Learners have to an active participant in their training, which means hands on as quickly as possible. </p>
<p>This may offer you some structure/guidance Ben.</p>
<p>1. explain / demonstrate:  5 &#8211; 10 minutes, each aspect of how to do the job using a variety of blended learning methodologies<br />
2. practice / coach: observe &amp; give immediate feedback, repeat until competency achieved<br />
3. job aids:  short checklists and talking points that the learner can refer to<br />
4. evaluate: daily/weekly/monthly/quarterly. observe learner to align activity with results and fill knowledge/skill gaps &#8212; don&#8217;t wait until the behavior is ingrained to modify. </p>
<p>Lastly, if processes, tools or an understanding of competencies are lacking, it will be difficult to achieve sustainable, let alone repeatable success.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Jones - Accountancy Appointments Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Jones - Accountancy Appointments Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, Generation Y requires the practical learning approach as it is impossible to get the little buggers to listen for more than 5 minutes without trying to check their iphones for Facebook updates. More advice on &#039;coping&#039; with Gen Y would be appreciated Greg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, Generation Y requires the practical learning approach as it is impossible to get the little buggers to listen for more than 5 minutes without trying to check their iphones for Facebook updates. More advice on &#8216;coping&#8217; with Gen Y would be appreciated Greg.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 1st ever recruitment job I was sat next to one of the directors who was an active and very successful recruiter. He let me get on with it, however would give me pointers on what I could improve, try or change or if he was on the phone I could hear him work.

It was the best training I ever received, and 6 years later I am still grateful for the start that gave me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 1st ever recruitment job I was sat next to one of the directors who was an active and very successful recruiter. He let me get on with it, however would give me pointers on what I could improve, try or change or if he was on the phone I could hear him work.</p>
<p>It was the best training I ever received, and 6 years later I am still grateful for the start that gave me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Bulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot recall the number of times I have heard a training session take place where it is all tell and sell.  No real value add.  I realised a long time ago that the large number of recruitment firms here in the UK are started small by a consultant or group of consultants who have done well and want a piece of the action.  Any number of bad habits or poor training methods can be brought along with them which are then readily passed down to the staff.

Training the MD&#039;s and Sales Managers of recruitment firms is as important in my mind. so they can pass on best practice and reap the rewards!  

One of the best techniques I have come across is the having the consultant visualise themself in the place of the client - what would they want to find out, and how would they present the opportunity.  This usually brings out the requisite enthusiasm and passion and in turn leads to more intelligent questions asked of both client and candidate so they offer a true representation of their brand and the opportunity.

I personally oversaw the turnaround in a young researcher last year who was all about ticking boxes.  By teaching him this approach he started gaining real emotional buy in from candidates and threw away the reading from the job spec approach.  Personally very fulfilling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot recall the number of times I have heard a training session take place where it is all tell and sell.  No real value add.  I realised a long time ago that the large number of recruitment firms here in the UK are started small by a consultant or group of consultants who have done well and want a piece of the action.  Any number of bad habits or poor training methods can be brought along with them which are then readily passed down to the staff.</p>
<p>Training the MD&#8217;s and Sales Managers of recruitment firms is as important in my mind. so they can pass on best practice and reap the rewards!  </p>
<p>One of the best techniques I have come across is the having the consultant visualise themself in the place of the client &#8211; what would they want to find out, and how would they present the opportunity.  This usually brings out the requisite enthusiasm and passion and in turn leads to more intelligent questions asked of both client and candidate so they offer a true representation of their brand and the opportunity.</p>
<p>I personally oversaw the turnaround in a young researcher last year who was all about ticking boxes.  By teaching him this approach he started gaining real emotional buy in from candidates and threw away the reading from the job spec approach.  Personally very fulfilling!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Stewart - Talent Capital (NZ)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Stewart - Talent Capital (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re your comments around making the hard calls and gathering the team around for example fee negotiations.  I had one manager (director) who insisted that you listen in on another headset - this guy was sharp as a tack and with nerves of steel.  It really was something to look forward to... In reflection alot was learned at the time through that approach.

Cheers. Brad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re your comments around making the hard calls and gathering the team around for example fee negotiations.  I had one manager (director) who insisted that you listen in on another headset &#8211; this guy was sharp as a tack and with nerves of steel.  It really was something to look forward to&#8230; In reflection alot was learned at the time through that approach.</p>
<p>Cheers. Brad.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Meade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Meade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with your philosophy about getting them to do it as opposed to telling them as a better way to learn.  WIth respect to &quot;selling&quot; the role I think there needs to be caution. I advise our consultants to give an accurate description of the role including the good points but just as importantly the not so good points.  As I see it,  if a person&#039;s perception of the role when they agree to it is different to the reality, then the chances are high that they will pull out of the assignment.  It is better a candidate is told about a role warts and all and they not accept, than accepting and then pulling out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with your philosophy about getting them to do it as opposed to telling them as a better way to learn.  WIth respect to &#8220;selling&#8221; the role I think there needs to be caution. I advise our consultants to give an accurate description of the role including the good points but just as importantly the not so good points.  As I see it,  if a person&#8217;s perception of the role when they agree to it is different to the reality, then the chances are high that they will pull out of the assignment.  It is better a candidate is told about a role warts and all and they not accept, than accepting and then pulling out.</p>
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